As leaders we have to look after people, but sometimes we forget to look after ourselves, 
and I think that component is really important, the sort of the self-care, 
because we don't look after ourselves how are we going to look after the others? 
It's not just, you know, the teams we're responsible for, but also our families, and the communities in which we live in. 
So I think that in many ways I do find that this programme offered us the avenue to be able to explore within ourselves, 
and to be able to express our needs.